tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post1096083011128421871..comments2024-03-21T23:18:45.644+00:00Comments on Priest with a Cause - A World of Warcraft (Classic) blog: Nostalgia and doubtsShintarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-88685826514270531192011-07-30T15:14:11.949+01:002011-07-30T15:14:11.949+01:00BTW I'm already finding an enforced 12 hour li...BTW I'm already finding an enforced 12 hour limit per week hugely liberating. This is going to sound strange, but when I log on now, I have genuine choice. Hmmm... I am probably gonna raid 2x this week I think to myself, so that is 8-9 hours done, so I *could* run an hour of BGs, or I *could* do a zulroic, or I *could* do a full batch of dailies. But I can't possibly do them all. So strangely, less time means more choice.<br /><br />I know that technically there's nothing to stop me timing myself at 12 hours, but it comes back to the human mind (as per a more recent post of yours), just vaguely trying to keep to 12 hours is not the same as knowing the damn machine will kick you off at 12 hours! A thing that is in limited supply, is automatically more valuable.<br /><br />I'll be sure to let you know how my experiment turns out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-57094628646837862772011-07-30T00:20:27.158+01:002011-07-30T00:20:27.158+01:00> Just imagine what the World of Warcraft would...> Just imagine what the World of Warcraft would<br />> be like if we didn't have any of that, if<br />> everything was just out there for you to take<br />> it or leave it.<br /><br />Sounds like vanilla to me.<br /><br />*hint* That was when they were growing subscribers, not losing them. :)Kringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128630042421602039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-23746397968488568722011-07-29T23:51:25.793+01:002011-07-29T23:51:25.793+01:00Argh, I had a huge comment typed out and then back...Argh, I had a huge comment typed out and then backspace ended up deleting the whole thing... /sigh. Once more into the breach!<br /><br />@BoxerDogs: It's that routine that really gets me I think. I like routine to a certain extent, but in my opinion Blizzard has gone somewhat overboard with it by now, with a daily for everything and pretty much every other activity being designed to be digested in chunks of a predetermined size over a predetermined amount of time. Just imagine what the World of Warcraft would be like if we didn't have any of that, if everything was just out there for you to take it or leave it. Sure, some people would rush ahead and burn themselves out, but at least not everyone would be expected to fit into the same mould. And I'd love to see that photobook! ;)<br /><br />@Klepsacovic: That's why discussions about difficulty rarely lead anywhere, because ideally everything should be just challenging enough but not impossible for everyone at the same time, and that's just not feasible.<br /><br />@Tessy: I haven't touched a heirloom since Cataclysm and have never looked up a levelling spec in my life. I guess levelling some more lowbie alts would be fun, but the lack of character slots on servers where I know people is somewhat off-putting. :(<br /><br />@Kring: True, that's where the question of how much the game has changed comes in. As Nils always likes to say, context matters. But I've ranted about that kind of thing enough, I thought I'd look at my own habits for a change. ;)<br /><br />@Syl: I wonder if SWTOR will be able to lure me in for a while. I'm not a huge Star Wars geek and never thought I'd be interested in a sci-fi MMO, but I've seen some videos that actually intrigued me and it would certainly be a change of pace.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-30672336089015587122011-07-29T10:58:04.066+01:002011-07-29T10:58:04.066+01:00This really reminds me of a post Gilded recently w...This really reminds me of a post Gilded recently wrote on how the world has become "colder" - and in a way I think that sensation applies here too, even for WoW and raiding. all our life we want to progress and discover, but once we have done all of that, the world just feels a little smaller. the older we get, the more well-known everything becomes and for games too of course, even more so, things just feel lacking and been there done that at some point. <br /><br />I made the exact same discovery like you some months ago, looking at my huge screenshot folders from vanilla and TBC, pondering how unimportant such kills have suddenly become and how I never take killshots anymore. <br />the newb days are gone, they will never return. but then, 7 years is a really long time to play the same game, so that is already a bit of an achievement. maybe you simply need a time out and look at something new sometime, feel again how it is to start at zero, in a brand new world with brand new challenges. personally I found that helpful, just to noob around a bit in other games. and it can bring back your appreciation for the old, too.Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473554645340972749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-37739617700177030822011-07-29T09:16:12.886+01:002011-07-29T09:16:12.886+01:00I don't think you can "return to your roo...I don't think you can "return to your roots" because you would be alone there which isn't fun in an MMO. It's not just that you log on and do a solo activity to advance your character instead of doing something with your friends. It's also your friends that log on and do a solo activity to advance their character instead of doing something with you.Kringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128630042421602039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-49980967914573480462011-07-29T07:31:24.266+01:002011-07-29T07:31:24.266+01:00You may not be able to un-know things but you you ...You may not be able to un-know things but you you can stop reading up on things you don't know yet :) <br /><br />I have cancelled my sub but it is possible I will renew it come winter, and if I do I will certainly fight the urge to go find a good levelling spec or to deck my toon out in heirlooms. And I won't raid. <br /><br />I will choose gear based on how pretty it is and just amble along and smell the flowers :)Tessynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-16068197939876581032011-07-29T07:04:47.221+01:002011-07-29T07:04:47.221+01:00Oh yeah, here's two more things I do. (4 )Play...Oh yeah, here's two more things I do. (4 )Play a completely different game and let that take over for a while. I really enjoyed LA Noire. (5) Record the victories and never let them be devalued. I compiled all my WotLK photos into as nice narrative, wrote a story around it, and had it printed as one of those photobooks. Cost me a tenner, well worth every penny!<br /><br />It's like marriage or work or any other field of human endeavour, you can't ever recapture the initial highs, but you can settle into a comfortable, enjoyable and amiable middle ground. So good luck! /boxerdogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-12437836705202909982011-07-29T05:37:19.540+01:002011-07-29T05:37:19.540+01:00Ironically, progression may be what kills guilds. ...Ironically, progression may be what kills guilds. What's the joy in an easy kill? It's the kill you don't think you can get that really brings the cheers. The kill that takes weeks is the one to remember.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-91362226004512961372011-07-29T05:15:02.116+01:002011-07-29T05:15:02.116+01:00It's not surprising. I remember when I put out...It's not surprising. I remember when I put out my first major published piece at work, 20 years ago. Exciting! Now? Well, it's a nice feeling to have finished a piece of work, but after 20 years and god knows how many publications (dozens?), it can't possibly be exciting. Put it this way, how many progression bosses have you killed over the years? Add them up and blog it, it'll be fun!<br /><br />In fact, I often go through similar phases in WoW. I'm not much of an alter either. Here are three suggested strategies that have worked for me in the past. (1) Take a three or four week break. (2) Get a new healer recruit or do some Tier 11 and demand to take your hunter for the change of pace. (3) Set parental controls with a max of 12 hours a week gameplay. This last one is my latest wheeze. I bet it sounds surreal to everyone, but I think part of the difference to how I play NOW to THEN is that WoW used to be something I logged on to for some fun. It wasn't routine! I didn't have this set dailies, heroics, one BG, check AH, log off thing going on. By not ALLOWING myself that routine, the game stays fresher.<br /><br />Anyways, good luck!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-57868155033101664942011-07-29T01:41:43.782+01:002011-07-29T01:41:43.782+01:00@Redbeard: That's definitely true, but it does...@Redbeard: That's definitely true, but it doesn't really answer the question of why things feel different to me <i>now</i>. Boss fights have always been about learning the dance, and I used to find that exciting too. Maybe there's a certain element of "been there, done that" to it, seeing how there's only so much Blizzard can do to make encounters new and different. Maybe some of the changes to the raiding game also play a part, such as the point madness and the planned obsolescence of every new raid.<br /><br />@Stubborn: That last sentence made me chuckle. :) I guess it's difficult to take a break because of the built-in sense of duty that you develop as a raider. Of course you don't really "owe" it to your guildies to be available all the time, but on the other hand you don't really want to be "that guy" who's never around and leaves people hanging on a whim.<br /><br />@Ithilyn: You said it in a much more concise manner than me. :) So many questions, but no real answers.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-9014001800899028272011-07-29T00:30:32.783+01:002011-07-29T00:30:32.783+01:00Beautifully put last paragraph. My raid group just...Beautifully put last paragraph. My raid group just disbanded, largely due to real life commitments (mine included), and no small amount of just getting tired of it all. I dream of leveling that alt, rolling a new class, and/or switching to dps... but is there any going back, or will it all just be time spent trying to get back to a "perfect" place, long since passed?ithilynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-84162836769528319892011-07-28T23:05:06.894+01:002011-07-28T23:05:06.894+01:00Sounds like you might have a touch of that general...Sounds like you might have a touch of that general malaise we've seen going around. I had a really nasty case of it a few months ago that stuck around until pretty recently. I played some other games, leveled some toons just to mess around, and basically ignored all my responsibilities (which was easy since I didn't really have any at the time, but still, I wasn't working on "progressing), and then one day I suddenly wanted to play again.<br /><br />WoW can become as much a part of a person's identity as a job they love. I'm dealing with being without teaching (though I still have my methadone college professoring to go to), and I've dealt with feeling bad about WoW before, and I can tell you that there's a lot of similarities between to two. <br /><br />If you still like the game, then the good feelings will come back. It may take time, it may take breaks, it may take a big change in your game play, but it will come back if you want it to. Whether it does or not, you're still you, with or without this part of your identity. You're still the priest with a cause, even if you're not priesting on a daily basis.Stubbornhttp://sheepthediamond.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-13600081482347282932011-07-28T17:10:09.612+01:002011-07-28T17:10:09.612+01:00I think part of the appeal of PvP over PvE (raidin...I think part of the appeal of PvP over PvE (raiding or not) for you right now is the uncertainty. Everybody plays differently, and while the mechanics are the same, the strategies and tactics will differ. That uncertainty really creates a lot of tension in a BG. <br /><br />With a boss fight, you know the drill. You've seen it before, and it's strictly a matter of execution. If a boss changed tactics on a regular basis, it would keep the fight fresh and uncertain, but that doesn't happen.Redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306063084983025771noreply@blogger.com