tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post3935913785472701014..comments2024-03-21T23:18:45.644+00:00Comments on Priest with a Cause - A World of Warcraft (Classic) blog: Why It's Rude to Suck at WarcraftShintarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-20888674816555855092022-12-06T09:23:37.077+00:002022-12-06T09:23:37.077+00:00I'm pretty sure you could already display mult...I'm pretty sure you could already display multiple bars in Vanilla, but yes - I started using 1-7 and the keys adjacent to WASD right from the beginning, like in FPS/third person games because moving and clicking abilities has always been completely alien to me.Nogamarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703565537132612133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-88182747636639212002022-12-01T12:54:30.614+00:002022-12-01T12:54:30.614+00:00I'm curious, if you default to keybindings, ar...I'm curious, if you default to keybindings, are you saying you just learned to play by hitting 1-0 for your abilities and scrolling back and forth between the numbered action bars? Because if you changed them to any other keys or installed addons to allow you to keybind multiple bars that's still going out of your way to create a special setup.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-41030499192252241332022-11-29T11:42:07.214+00:002022-11-29T11:42:07.214+00:00> You see, I'm well aware that keybinding y...> You see, I'm well aware that keybinding your abilities is more "optimal" in the sense that it increases your reaction time and actions per minute. However, it's also objectively more demanding in that it requires setup and memorisation<br /><br />Respectfully disagreeing here, at least for myself. I'm not one to judge objectivity here, but I am so bad with clicking that you'd confuse me for a day one player instead of a Heroic Raider. To the point that I'm wondering how I ever managed to play shooters with that lack of aiming, but hitting a button with a mouse, fast and precise? While moving even? Nope, can't kite a slow level 5 boar as a hunter :/<br /><br />But on the other hand I'm not one to call out people (well except my wife :P) if they're clicking, as long as it works.Nogamarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703565537132612133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-84585986747850921192022-11-29T00:28:40.704+00:002022-11-29T00:28:40.704+00:00I definitely prefer keyboard-turning to mouse-turn...I definitely prefer keyboard-turning to mouse-turning myself. Both because I'm more used to the former and the latter... well, let's just say that there have been a handful of times when mouse-turning when I <i>was</i> trying to get accustomed to it have led to enemies being pulled via ranged basic attacks when accidentally clicking on them instead of on terrain.<br /><br />Not something I'm keen to repeat!Galactic Anticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12414162698665967228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-54596229604544010162022-11-28T06:19:17.554+00:002022-11-28T06:19:17.554+00:00I have made it plain since Vanilla Classic that I ...I have made it plain since Vanilla Classic that I am a minimalist and only use the minimally necessary addons to raid. Thankfully the biggest WA proponent in the guild also despises ElvUI, so my minimalist approach has some defenders.<br />Redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306063084983025771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-22509262278895127102022-11-27T17:22:34.383+00:002022-11-27T17:22:34.383+00:00Heh, and the best is to say you couldn't use t...Heh, and the best is to say you couldn't use the mouse to turn because you were using it to click on the action bar for your rotation.Wilhelm Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033496821708933394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-2444940388603157672022-11-27T16:51:37.645+00:002022-11-27T16:51:37.645+00:00Ah yes, the infamous keyboard-turning! I do that s...Ah yes, the infamous keyboard-turning! I do that sometimes too, depending on the situation.<br /><br />And yeah, I'm in no way saying that performance never matters. When playing with other people, there's always a certain degree of compromise required that might not exactly be how you'd like to do things by yourself. But as the example with the trinket in the video shows, people can go absolutely crazy with the kind of things they demand. And of course the cases I cited for myself are about complete strangers trying to dictate the gameplay of others they'll never play with, or people finding things to criticise out of game that have no noticeable effect on their grouping experience in game.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-76724637024218907712022-11-27T15:31:22.086+00:002022-11-27T15:31:22.086+00:00Bu not clicking on it that is. Double negative se...Bu not clicking on it that is. Double negative sentences are always a hazard.Wilhelm Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033496821708933394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-20467941251892527832022-11-27T15:30:07.013+00:002022-11-27T15:30:07.013+00:00I would generally agree that if you're going t...I would generally agree that if you're going to play with other people, especially in random groups, you should put some effort into not being bad. Spoiling the experiences of other because you can't be bothered to learn your class is not cool.<br /><br />Beyond that though, get stuffed. As Earl in our group used to say, somebody put in a lot of effort to make that spiffy looking hotbar, who am I to not appreciate their efforts by clicking on it?<br /><br />However, if you really want to trigger people in a video, turn in a fight using WASD keys rather than the mouse. That will get normally sane people screaming at you.Wilhelm Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033496821708933394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-90044150586924165272022-11-27T11:00:23.635+00:002022-11-27T11:00:23.635+00:00I'm guessing you've never shared a screens...I'm guessing you've never shared a screenshot or video with your UI visible in your guild. I promise if anyone had seen any indication of you not keybinding your spells, it would've been brought up repeatedly.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-75532410541117165512022-11-27T05:20:23.900+00:002022-11-27T05:20:23.900+00:00Holy crap do I agree with you on Keybindings!
I w...Holy crap do I agree with you on Keybindings!<br /><br />I was in a raid team dungeon run the other day with a player on their Ret Pally alt, and they used keybinds to reduce the Ret Pally's attacks down to ONE BUTTON. They had that keybind set up twice: once for Judging for Mana, and once for Judging for Heals. <br /><br />I was flabbergasted.<br /><br />Ret in Wrath is basically a "whack-a-mole" spec, where you hit whatever ability comes off of cooldown. And some are instant casts based on a proc, so why the hell would you want to keybind all of this?<br /><br />Well, this likely explains some of the "talking to" I've gotten over the past couple of years as to why the number of times I cast my main abilities is slower than others: I'm using real live keys rather than keybinds. And here I thought it merely was because I'm in my 50s and I can feel my reaction time slowing down.Redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05306063084983025771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-50524978474487002342022-11-27T01:13:16.726+00:002022-11-27T01:13:16.726+00:00I also suspect that the vast majority of WoW playe...I also suspect that the vast majority of WoW players actually click their abilities. You just wouldn't know it from any forums and other places where people discuss these things, because anyone who spends time there knows that not playing like the pros is to be shunned.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-70925054226970548952022-11-26T23:11:35.338+00:002022-11-26T23:11:35.338+00:00From my perspective, the whole clicking / keybindi...From my perspective, the whole clicking / keybinding thing can also be influenced by non-MMO games. I for one grew up with several games that featured very few things to click on except maybe for targeting things. Indeed, two of my most-played childhood games only featured clicking in the menus; otherwise, it was keyboard-controls only. Of the others, Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy featured keybinds (mainly F1 - F12 of all things...) as the only way of accessing Force powers, and clicking just caused you to swing / throw your lightsaber or access different firing modes for blasters depending on what keys you pressed.<br /><br />So that's why I for one keybind stuff - it's just a system that I was well-accustomed to for pretty much every PC game I had played long before MMOs were on my horizon, although MMOs of course tend to allow greater sxtremes (Neverwinter being the exception). I imagine that, had I grown up with more games that featured clickable abilities than keybound ones then I would be happier continuing to do so. I have the utmost respect for people who can fully get behind game systems that I can't, and this is no exception.Galactic Anticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12414162698665967228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4659326122793396570.post-54569711485678379582022-11-26T22:14:16.741+00:002022-11-26T22:14:16.741+00:001000% agree with every word! It won't surprise...1000% agree with every word! It won't surprise you to know I'm a clicker and always have been. What might surprise you, though, is that for the first few years I played mmorpgs I genuinely felt that NOT clicking was in some way cheating. I knew keybinding was a permitted option but I had a very hardcore attitude to game settings, which was that the Default was the Real Thing and anything else was somehow wrong - as in morally wrong. <br /><br />Eventually I sloughed off most of these innate, instinctive reactions to arrive at a very laissez-faire position, which is do what you want, just don't get in anyone else's way by doing it. Personally, I still hugely prefer to click because I prefer to use my mouse for everything other than movement whenever possible. I don't really differentiate between playing games and web-browsing in that way - the keyboard is for typing, the mouse is for selecting.<br /><br />I also think that clicking in a game like WoW is how regular folk do it. Keybinding is a gamer thing (And a coder thing, which is much the same, often as not.) WoW used to be the non-gamer's mmorpg and clicking would certainly have been the norm then. It's just another gamer's game now, sadly.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.com