Forever: Visiting the Neighbours

Blizzard has been pretty generous with handing out free trial codes for the first seven days of WoW Forever, which included three of them coming with every collector's edition. I had the genius idea of applying one of them to my own US trial account to play a bit of WoWF in another region as well and virtually visit some friends on the other side of the pond that way.

Specifically I ended up meeting up with the New Outriders, a guild that I hang out with when I occasionally play SWTOR on the American server Star Forge. My original plan was to make a sky elf hunter, but then I realised that while I had unlocked a few days of play time, my Skyborne unlock did of course not carry over and they were unavailable on my US account. After a bit of thinking about what class/race combo to pick instead (ideally something I wasn't planning to roll on my main EU account in the near future), I created a human hunter, even if that meant playing through the human starting zone for a second time in 48 hours.

The New Outriders opted to go for the normal PvE rule set, and it was definitely interesting to see the differences. For one thing, Blizzard had decided to play with the sharding dial after the first day, tuning up zone populations from pleasant to what I'd describe as distinctly unpleasant. Not literally unplayable but, well... unpleasant, with mobs either hyper-spawning so fast that respawns would appear on your head before you'd even killed the last mob you pulled, which turned caves into absolute death traps - OR, if the spawns weren't quite as bad, you were best off just finding a quiet corner and killing the same mob over and over again every time it respawned, because any time you'd try to move you'd just be too late tagging whatever other mob you wanted to approach. Again, I don't get why people think this makes for a fun way to play the game.

The difference in chat was also... oof. I don't know how much of it is normal vs. roleplay and how much is US vs. Europe, but I quickly had to leave both general and trade chat because they just devolved into people yelling at each other about politics or streamers. Now, general chat being unpleasant shouldn't be a shock - I usually have it hidden in SWTOR for example, and that's been my main game for the last decade and a half - but after the relative wholesomeness of the EU-RP chat the previous day, it was still disappointing.

I also had my own first-hand exposure to Asmongold's "roach army" and wow - I didn't quite believe people's tales, but they really are every bit as vile as people say they are. I'd foolishly assumed he would roll on the PvP server (the army of lemmings following him around everywhere should presumably be able to keep him safe from stream snipers) but no, apparently he decided to make the regular US PvE server his home. The first time I realised this was when I was sitting at a campfire and someone introduced themselves with "hello, fellow roaches" and when I looked up I saw that he was in a guild called "Olympus Jews". After that basically every time I came across the guild name Olympus in chat, someone was being either stupid, insulting, incredibly puerile or all three combined. It really is amazing how a single person could amass such a huge following of seemingly only the worst people, and I understand now why there is an addon to automatically ignore everyone who's in any of their guilds. I imagine that its effectiveness will be limited though, simply because people without the addon still feel the need to argue with them so I imagine there's no real escaping that without avoiding public chat channels altogether. I really feel bad for US players in that regard.

Anyway, once I'd left all the public chats I didn't have to deal with that anymore at least, only with the crowds. It was easy enough to do all the group quests as I just had to go to the right location and then spam invites at everyone else who was just standing around. (For some reason I always seemed to be the first person to have the incredibly novel idea to form a party instead of everyone fighting among themselves for the tag.) So that was efficient, but zero conversations were had.

I was surprised to find that there were some new quests that I had missed in Elwynn, in spite of how thorough I thought I had been with clearing out the zone on my paladin the day before. I suspect that I still might not have found all of them, as I saw a named elite bear north of Stone Cairn Lake at some point which very much looked like it must be an objective for something, but I have no idea what quest it is for.

Gameplay-wise, hunter vs. paladin was also a big shift - on my paladin I'd actually felt pretty powerful right away, able to take on multiple mobs at once almost from the beginning due to the ability to self-heal in combat. Now, I'm well aware that hunter before you get your pet is a pain - it always has been - but it was still a stark contrast in this instance. I already had to run away from fights gone wrong in Northshire, and suffered my first death to a bunch of murlocs. (My paladin is level 16 and has yet to die to anything.) I definitely depended on other people intervening and saving my hide a lot more than the paladin ever did.

When I finally did get my own pet, I travelled to Dun Morogh to tame a cat to name after a friend, which felt like a good capstone to my US adventures for the day.

I did play a bit more on my paladin as well, and got more confirmation that the sharding is still a work in progress, not just in terms of what the population levels should be, but also in terms of general stability. It started with me seeing some people fighting mobs that were invisible to me, while walking past a lot of others seemingly undetected. Later on, the bleed-through increased and several layers worth of mobs started to appear at once, though many of them would not react to being attacked and simply kept evading. I saw seemingly ownerless voidwalkers with "unknown" as their name attack things out of their own volition. At one point I met a sky elf hunter with a dead pet and revived it, but its health kept going down again like from an invisible dot. "The time plague is withering us all" the hunter commented, and I just couldn't stop giggling. Around the same time, a server notification came up to tell us that "there was a slight blip in the multiverse - we are in the process of de-blipping all zones now", which made everyone laugh. I suppose with how stable the launch has been in general, one can't really complain too much at this point.

Forever Starts Today

When the WoW Forever servers went up last night, I was fast asleep. I'm getting too old for launches at or close to midnight in my time zone, and I feel like I've seen enough of the crazy crowds that new server launches in WoW bring that I don't really need to live it all over again. There's a certain bonding experience to be had from sitting in endless queues with others and then being unable to play once you finally log in because there are too many people trying to kill the same eight zombies - but the novelty does wear off after a few times.

Still, when I got up in the morning I was all the more curious. From what I read, the launch was actually... unusually smooth? Which is to say that the servers only really creaked for a few minutes right around go-live, and even during the biggest rush, queue times were only around five minutes.

I'm still torn about what I want to focus on first, because at the moment I feel like playing all the alts... but for my first few steps I settled on my human paladin. I clicked "enter world" and leaned back in my chair to take in the good old human starting cinematic... just to have the visuals freeze halfway through, while the subtitles continued and the sound started over from scratch. What an odd thing to bug out!

Other than that, I was pretty impressed though. I mean, it was very early in the morning so I didn't expect things to be too busy at that point, but they really leaned hard into sharding for the launch and I dare say it was actually... pleasant? There were people around and there was some competition for things, but not to the point where it was annoying. Naturally, some ingrates with no object permanence immediately took to the forums to complain that the world feels dead when they don't have a hundred people piled on top of each other in their immediate field of vision. Don't listen to them, Blizzard! Actually being able to play the game is nice!

Anyway, I didn't expect to have much time to play today since I was supposed to be in the office, but when I checked the status of my local trains they were in complete disarray, which unexpectedly gave me an excuse to work from home, meaning I could actually play for a few hours in the morning, the evening and during my lunch break. I've never been happier about the crappy state of my commute.

Regardless, I obviously only got so much done on the first day, but here are some brief first impressions:

I'd already heard about it in the beta, but I really love the change that allows you to train gathering professions in the starting zone from level one. I lost count of the number of times I looked at various level one wolf and boar corpses in Classic and felt sad that I couldn't learn how to skin until later. My paladin became a miner, mind you, but it still felt good to get started on that earlier.

I enjoyed the new quests sprinkled in among the familiar fare, even if it led to surprising inefficiencies. For example I'd pick up two known quests to go into a cave and then later find that there's a new, third quest that I originally missed. Well, back in I go I guess! There are few things more vanilla than that.

I also opted for the classic setting without quest markers on the map. This presented an interesting dilemma when I got a bit stuck on one of the new quests. The instructions weren't bad, but I thought I had been in the right place and killed a lot of mobs without finding anything, so I was keen for some kind of hint - did the item drop from a specific mob I'd missed? Was it a clicky thing on the ground? I briefly considered opening Wowhead but then decided that it probably made more sense to stay in game and at least turn the quest tracking on temporarily to get a hint about whether I'd really been in the right area. It helped and I was able to complete that quest without outside assistance, and then immediately turned the indicators back off. 

My first grouping experience was with a warlock inside Fargodeep Mine who turned out to be a bit disappointed that I wasn't French. This prompted me to check my "preferred language" setting - the one that's supposed to put people who speak the same language into the same shards where possible - and I found that for some reason it was defaulted to French. I changed it to English but so far it's reverted back to French every time I've relogged. I tend to notice after a while as I find myself increasingly surrounded by characters with French-sounding names. Apparently it's a known bug.

In general, the company has been very pleasant. It's rare that I can read general chat in an MMO and not roll my eyes - but this is why I chose RP-PvE. People were excited and goofing off of course, but mostly in innocuous and sometimes even wholesome ways. Exhibit A:

After the clown fiesta that was the early name reservation and everyone posting their oh-so-"funny" meme names it was also nice to be surrounded by people with mostly setting-appropriate names for once. Oh, and the campfires really do work for socialising. It's not amazing, but it is nice.

What else is there to say? Oh yeah, graphics. I thought the stuff they presented at BlizzCon looked great, but during my own quick peek into the beta I admittedly wasn't that impressed. After a few hours of playing today I'll say that most of the time, it didn't feel that dramatically different from how Classic looked on high graphics settings... but there are definitely moments when the new light effects come in at just the right angle and make you pause. For a minute or so I got completely mesmerised by specks of light actually dancing on the surface of the stream in Northshire but found it impossible to get a proper screenshot of it. Likewise both sunrise and sunset in the Eastern Kingdoms cast some pretty spectacular shadows. I'm looking forward to spending more time in this version of Azeroth.

Pre-Forever Retail Roundup

With WoW Forever launching later today, I expect I'll be giving retail WoW the cold shoulder for at least a few weeks. That said, I've been enjoying it quite a bit for the past couple of months, so I wanted to do a bit of a round-up post talking about some (to me) notable things that happened during that time, but which maybe weren't quite worthy of having their own post.

Chowdown Champion

I wrote about the surprising amount of fun I had with Brewfest this year, but what wasn't covered in that post (because it hadn't happened yet) was that I managed to win the five chowdown competitions required to buy the Brewfest Chowdown Trophy toy before the event ended. I was just ridiculously proud of myself for that one.

I'd read some comments claiming that it's completely RNG who wins, but I'd like to think that there is an optimal strategy and that I got really good at it, because once I'd figured out what to do I only lost a couple more matches before earning my trophy. (The strategy is to just eat a choke sometimes when the cooldown on the next drink is the same or greater length than the "choking break" anyway, plus the choke meter seems to deplete in "ticks" so sometimes it's worth waiting just one second or so before eating another sausage just to get one last chomp in without choking. God, do I feel weird having written that sentence.)

After getting my trophy, I still continued taking part in the chowdown event but actively made sure not to win again so more people could have a shot at earning their champion tokens. Yes, I really enjoyed it that much.

Mythic+ Season 2 (So Far)

I wrote about how I "accidentally" did more M+ in Midnight Season 1 than I'd done in some previous seasons when I was actively trying to get my rating up. Somehow things seemed to be getting even worse in Season 2 in so far, as the attendance of certain people on my guild's M+ team became so bad that I was almost joining more often than they did. After hitting 2k rating I put my foot down and said they really need to find someone else to help out because I don't want to do it anymore when it's almost every single week. It feels a bit weird because it's not like I've hated the runs I helped out with, but I simply do not want to have my Sunday evenings committed to this every week and I currently feel like I'm being taken advantage of in a way. We'll see whether the situation improves over the next few weeks.

 

Venomous Abyss LFR

I'm sure for some people LFR is something they do on multiple characters every week, but for me it just always feels like a bit of a chore to "see the raid" once per tier, mostly because of the hours of waiting to get pops for all the wings. Though one upside of getting this done is that it always exposes you to both the best and the worst of the modern WoW community, which can honestly be quite hilarious.

In the Venomous Abyss, the definitive winner in that category was the second wing. It started with me cracking up at the mere sight of the Entombed Sentinels and going "yeah, I can see where that meme came from". Then there's a mechanic during the fight where people are meant to run into each other to make a debuff above their heads disappear - I think on higher difficulties there are rules to it, but on LFR anyone running into anyone else seemed fine... except some people still didn't want to move and a massive ping-fest ensued trying to get them to walk towards each other.

The bosses themselves also need to be handled in a certain way so as not to heal each other... and we were apparently doing that wrong. I had no idea about how any of that was going to be honest (I was healing) but I did notice that the fight seemed to be going on for a while, and people started to say things in chat like "worst LFR group ever" or "this run is cursed" while engaging in more wild pinging. However, this in turn then got others in the group to tell them that they needed to chill out, it's LFR etc. On the following trash someone demanded that we should "vote kick the haters" and someone did indeed try to initiate a kick for someone, but it failed and I'm not sure that person had even done anything.

At this point it felt like the insanity was out of the bag and people started saying increasingly random things in chat, such as "you shouldn't be able to skin the snakes, they're basically people", which someone else countered on the next boss (who's one of those snake people) by yelling "can't wait to skin this guy". It was just mayhem and I couldn't stop giggling. I was mildly disappointed that the two wings after that were fairly normal and boring. 

The Labyrinth of Kindo'jan

I'm not great at keeping up with the news about all the new stuff retail is pumping out with each patch, but one thing I had taken note of was the promise of a "labyrinth" or "mega-delve" that you could do in chunks. Unfortunately the whole "being able to do it in chunks" thing ended up on the cutting room floor at some point, which was a bit disappointing. So the final result is just one fairly large delve with a lot of rooms that you can end early for fewer rewards if you want. Still, it does have its appeal - the husband and I have enjoyed running it in full multiple times. The sheer number of chests and treasures you end up with after a full run makes for quite a satisfying looting experience, even if a lot of it isn't that valuable to our characters at this point.

Anyway, what I hadn't known in advance was that there was also a boss at the end that's a bit like the nemesis bosses but not really, in the sense that you need to do the delve first to access him, but also in that he's much easier than the nemesis bosses usually are (and doesn't have a special extra hard difficulty, he just scales to the delve tier you pick I guess). And for some reason, Blizzard decided to add a FOMO achievement for killing him with zero deaths in the first week of release (which was later extended to two weeks), complete with a toy that shows you the how manieth person to earn the achievement you were.

I did it kind of late in the week because I hadn't really planned to go for it at all, but then everyone said it was so easy I figured I might as well give it a go, and it was no problem at all. Nothing like being able to say that you were in the top 80,000 to do something (in the EU region). The husband later became one of the top 90,000, haha. I wonder how high the number actually went before the achievement was turned off. 

Can Modern WoW's Levelling Be Fixed?

One thing I did recently in an attempt to scratch the part of me that's itching to already play WoW Forever is create a regular new alt in retail WoW for the first time in a while. I made a Haranir since hey, I unlocked them, so I might as well make one.

I was quite delighted by the first couple of introductory quests, even if the story making your character extra super special and even more in touch with the goddess than Orweyna seemed unnecessary and a bit cringe. That said, since Haranir are only an allied race, the new intro quests barely took a few minutes and then it was off to wider Azeroth to do... whatever, and I could immediately feel my heart sink. None of the Chromie time options excited me because everything felt like it was either something I'd already done recently or something I wasn't that fond of. Why can't I just... go forth into the world and find my own path? 

The truth of course is that I still can do that if I really want to... and one pleasant discovery I made while doing so was that Blizzard changed the way the level scaling outside Chromie time works at some point. After the original level squish, some zones covered kind of weird levelling bands, like all the revamped old world zones from Cataclysm capping out at level 30, which meant you could barely blink in there before outlevelling everything. On my Haranir I noticed that all those old zones now scale up to 81, which means you have more freedom to choose your own path even outside Chromie time. I don't know when that happened, but I think it's a good thing.

I decided to randomly make my way to a low-level zone that I hadn't done since the Cataclysm and start there. This led me to the Northern Barrens, where I was reminded that for all the changes the devs made in Cata, there still isn't really anything noteworthy to do there for Alliance players. Fortunately the Southern Barrens were right next door and not much higher level. (The blog tells me that the last and probably only time I played through that zone was in April 2011).

As I started my questing there, things quickly started to feel off in several ways. For one thing, the world is devastatingly empty. During several hours of questing, I only saw a single other player around, and even that felt like quite the surprise. At some point I started queueing for dungeons in-between quests just because I wanted to see some other people. I usually got pops pretty quickly, so there are other levellers around - they are just all hiding away in instances. (By the way, the dungeon runs I had felt surprisingly chill by WoW dungeoneering standards - I got the feeling I wasn't the only one using retail levelling as a Forever waiting room.)

In this Gnomer run we even did all the optional bosses. 

Experience gains from questing also felt abysmal. Now, I'm not looking to be fast here, but the way sources of XP are balanced is just dramatically out of whack. That a random dungeon will get you multiple levels for a few minutes of effort is well known, but I made my druid a herbalist and the XP gains from that were also absolute crazy town: a single grey herb would give me more than three times the XP of killing a mob of my level. Handing in a quest was worth about as much as eight herbs. Just why? There is basically no correlation between effort and reward, and there's zero reason to do any quests unless you're a lore nerd and specifically want to see those stories.

There are other progression mechanics that just plainly make no sense. To stick with herbs for a second, at some point (I think it may have been Pandaria?) Blizzard made a change so that you could pick any herb at any level, and if your skill was too low you'd just get "petals" or bits instead of the real thing, and ten bits could be combined into one real herb. (They dropped this whole mechanic again in later expansions so it's weird to run into it in some expacs but not others, but that's a whole different problem.) The real issue is that since all the zones scale and herbs have no visible skill requirement anymore, you basically have no in-game way of telling at what skill level you'll be able to pick any herb "properly", nor in which zones you'd find herbs that actually match your skill. It's so messy and confusing that it's almost indistinguishable from randomness.

Another thing that really stood out to me were my druid's shapeshift forms. The Haranir forms all look pretty cool, but if you were to level a druid for the first time today... nothing about it makes sense. When you're first given travel form, it actually gives you no speed boost at all from what I can tell, which makes its purpose unclear. You'll also be given the skill to ride ground and later flying mounts before you can use your shapeshifting to do these things, which is a weird inversion of travel form originally being a neat speed boost before you could learn to ride. As it stands, it's just a random shapeshift that seemingly randomly does different things at different levels. I used mounts for several levels since that was my only way to fly and go faster, and then one day I hit travel form just to see the cute ferret thing again and was surprised to find that it now turned me into a bat and I could fly. No anticipation or reason to be excited, just "huh, I guess it does that now".

I could go on and on about more strange stuff like that, but the key takeaway from my point of view was that the progression mechanics of levelling are just utterly fucked up in retail. I'm not even talking about new players and story progression here, just about the gameplay side of wanting to go out into the world and getting a feeling of satisfaction from discovering things and growing in power - it just doesn't work at all.

Now, one reason I've been thinking about this subject is that I was surprised to see that one of the reactions to WoW Forever's announcement coming from the retail camp was: Why make a whole new game for levelling? Why not just fix retail's levelling? I'm guessing the answer to those questions was that starting over from a vanilla baseline was actually easier than fixing the mess that retail's levelling has become, and to be honest I was surprised that there are retail players left who care about levelling and haven't simply gone elsewhere to get their fix of that.

It did make me think though that there is some validity to the question. Modern WoW is a game focused on endgame, but that shouldn't mean that the levelling experience has to be this terrible for people actually looking for satisfying character progression from the levelling process. You can't just turn back time and try to go back to how things used to be - never mind all the happy retail players that wouldn't want that - but sometimes it's possible to come up with modern solutions that at least alleviate the problem a bit. A good example of this in my opinion are dungeons. I don't love the M+/rush-rush culture in modern WoW's dungeons and it's hard to imagine Blizzard ever trying to dial back what that has become, but they did add follower dungeons, which at least allow players who don't want to rush and who care about a dungeon's environment and narrative to engage with these things on their own terms.

So I'm wondering whether they could also add something to modern WoW's levelling to make it engaging and attractive but in its own way, something that isn't just trying to turn back the clock. I'm not a developer so these probably aren't the best ideas, but as an example I could think of something like an XP slider, so people have more options to tweak their XP gains to a level that feels good to them personally rather than always rushing along at either super speed OR turning it off completely in the capital. Or some different levelling challenges - e.g. "old school - do 50 quests in every expansion before you can advance to the next one, going in order". That wouldn't take anything away from those who just want to quickly rush to endgame, because they could still do it, but it would add a bit more meat to the bone for those who want to actually engage with levelling.

That and the devs would really need to do a pass over certain progression mechanics and think about whether they still make sense - e.g. travel form should be granted as something that actually offers a benefit, not a random shapeshift with no purpose. Or regardless of what the actual XP numbers are, picking flowers shouldn't be this superior to doing quests - and I say this as someone who likes picking flowers.

I just think there is still something there in modern WoW's levelling - it has the greatest number of beautiful zones of all the versions of WoW - it's just been treated so badly for so many years that players are encouraged to just push past it and not pay attention. When I logged into the Forever beta just to look around, I commented on how impactful it felt to see Nordrassil looming in the distance all the way from southern Mulgore. As I was questing on my Haranir druid in that area of Kalimdor, I suddenly found myself wondering how the view distance in retail compared. I had to tweak my settings a bit from where they were, but what do you know, you can see Nordrassil from southern Mulgore in modern WoW as well. It's just that basically nobody will ever find themselves standing around to look.

My 3 Biggest Concerns for WoW Forever

I've said it many times now, but I'm very excited for WoW Forever's release. That said, I'm still going into it with eyes wide open. I don't necessarily expect it to live up to its name by being a "forever" game. Primarily, I'm just hoping to recapture a little of that "new adventure" magic that I felt on Turtle WoW and to some degree even in the first weeks of Classic back in 2019/2020. If I can get a few months of entertainment out of that, it'll have been worth checking out. If I manage to make any new social connections, even better. If it ends up being even more than that... great, but I'm not necessarily counting on that.

As mentioned before, I didn't really play the beta myself (not counting simply making a character and running around a bit) but I consumed a lot of content about people's experiences on it, and I've got to say, my overall impression is still that it looks very promising. Where people had complaints, they largely didn't really faze me that much. (Which is not to say that they were bad feedback or completely baseless, just that for me, something like mob dungeon XP for example really doesn't matter much as I rarely do a dungeon more than once while levelling anyway.)

All that said, there are three what I'll call "areas of risk" that I suspect are more likely to make me sour on Forever in the long run than anything else. I hope they won't, I'm just saying that these are the things I'm most concerned about.

#1 - Megaservers and sharding

I've said quite a few times on this blog that I'm not a fan of megaservers, for a number of reasons. I don't like it when the open world feels permanently crowded for example, and I get the impression that most people's (including Blizzard's) idea of what feels like a good population level for a zone does not align with mine. I don't want to compete with ten different people for mobs in every single area. I don't want basic gathering nodes to be a rare treasure because every square inch of the map is constantly being scoured by farmers. I'm way less bothered by a server being quiet than by it feeling overcrowded. This has been a problem for me in Classic more than once.

In Forever though, there's even more to it than that. In Classic, we had layering, which meant that there were multiple versions of each continent running in parallel, but within the layer you were in, wandering the world was a seamless experience that involved running into the same people repeatedly and so on. (It's funny now to remember how adamantly some people were opposed to having layers even just for population management at Classic's launch, while in the present many Classic players will break into a sweat if their addon shows them fewer than ten active layers on their server because surely that's a sign that it's dying. The way the goalposts have shifted on that one is crazy to me.)

It's been kind of lost over time, but there were whole dev talks about this in the run-up to Classic in which they explained why they had to come up with this new technology because of how simply spinning up multiple versions of individual zones would break things and just wouldn't work in a Classic context.

Forever's realmless structure instead has... exactly that thing that the Classic devs originally wanted to avoid at all costs. I'm not sure about the correct term for it - sharding? People keep calling it layering even though that's not what it is, but from a player's perspective it basically seems to behave similarly to cross-realm zones in modern WoW, with the only difference being that there are no named realms; it's just one big pool of players that gets split up or merged by zone, depending on how many characters are active there at any given moment.

The problem is that this adds invisible "seams" all over what's meant to be a seamless world. I've seen people complain about chatting with someone on a boat, and then after the loading screen their friend is gone and they are surrounded by an entirely different crowd. I've seen a video of someone standing at the gates of Orgrimmar and watching character after character vanish into thin air right in front of their eyes as they exit. Another one showed a Horde raid on Ironforge, but the moment the Alliance defenders chased the attackers out the door, they vamoosed into the aether. Neat escape trick for the attackers, but immersion is something else.

This isn't as bad in retail because you'll rarely watch big crowds crossing zone borders there, but that aside, I'm also kind of used to "things suddenly phasing in and out of existence" just being part of retail's jank nowadays. Because you spend so much time travelling by flying mount at high speeds without paying close attention to your immediate surroundings, it doesn't bother me as much there. In a Classic world though, it feels really bad. And it worries me because I don't think it's something that will be fixed.

Sure, maybe the devs will be able to apply some band-aids, such as moving some shard borders to places where people are less likely to watch and notice their buddies vanishing. Maybe they'll manage to find a fix to keep travellers on boats and zeppelins together. But I don't think the overall problem is going to go away, because it seems to be a core part of their intended infrastructure for the game, and I don't see them making any changes to that at this point.

#2 - Community

I already think that the community aspect of Forever will suffer from the megaserver structure and being surrounded by too many people that you can't keep track of or remember. And yes, I know what they said at BlizzCon about the system being supposed to be smart and group you with players you've met before, but if you'll excuse me: I'll believe that when I see it. From reports I saw from the beta, the sharding system struggled enough just to keep people in the same group together sometimes. I know beta is beta, and hopefully what goes live will be better than that, but I'll still be very surprised if it's even remotely as good as Blizzard claimed it would be.

Aside from the general "too many people in one place" problem though, there's also the issue of toxicity and (lack of) moderation. There was some discourse about Asmongold and his followers being a real scourge on the beta and that they should've been banned. I can't tell you how justified that was, and I consider myself lucky that the US/EU split will keep him and many other streamers away from normal people over here, but let's simply put it like this: Blizzard's moderation and customer services haven't had the best reputation for a while, and this is going to be a huge stress test for them. I consider it a real risk that big streamers in particular will be allowed to run roughshod over everyone in their way because they provide publicity for the game, regardless of what kind of picture that paints of the community, and I hope I don't need to explain why I think that would be bad. The realmlessness of it all also means that there's no escape route for players wanting to get away from a certain crowd other than switching play style entirely.

#3 - Continued development direction/progression

Finally, for as much as people have been clamouring for Classic+ for years, I think part of the appeal of Classic for some at least has also been how predictable it is. You roll a warrior and already know at character creation that you've made the "right" choice to be top dps forever.

As the beta progressed, I started to see some videos along the lines of "I was going to make [class A] my main but they nerfed it so now I'll roll a [class B] instead" and all I could think was: Do you think whatever the final state of the beta is will be the state of Forever... forever? Because I think they will continue to make tweaks to things over time. How will it make you feel if the race or class you rolled and rushed to level is suddenly not the best anymore?

That particular example isn't going to be a problem for me, but I do worry whether we could end up in a situation similar to retail where my talent points are reset every other patch, along with new abilities being added and old favourites getting removed - just while adhering to a different design philosophy in terms of how those abilities should work. I'm honestly not even sure what the "correct" answer is here, because classes in Forever shouldn't be completely static if it receives continued development, but I also think that too much change too quickly would kind of go against the spirit of the thing.

Related to this, there is also the spectre of endgame progression. At BlizzCon, there were comments about horizontal progression and how you won't have to worry about falling behind because everything stays relevant, but the devs quickly backpedaled on that because of course they will be new raid tiers and of course they'll give stronger gear than the previous tier because why else would anyone do anything?

I think it was in a BlizzCon or adjacent interview where I heard Ian Hazzikostas once again reiterate that gear upgrades need to be thirty percent (or whatever the exact number was) stronger than the previous tier or else people don't bother with them, and that their internal metrics prove this. Sadly, I think this is just one of those holy cows that Blizzard still can't let go of, even after all the other bold changes they've made since Dragonflight. I'm not saying his metrics are wrong, but a) I thought a major point with Forever was to attract people who aren't already playing your game and b) you have no idea how many players take a look at those "needed" item level jumps and just nope right out of the whole thing before even passing go.

Games with horizontal progression are a thing, and I get that WoW has not traditionally been that kind of game, but I thought they were genuinely trying to dip their toes into new waters with Forever. Instead it now sounds more like they want to treat progression like in every other version of WoW, and if it becomes a problem further down the line, they'll figure it out. I saw Ion's talk about letting go of the idea that every system needs to be future-proof and that sometimes they just want to focus on what's fun now, but I don't think your new game's entire progression system is a good example of how it's OK to just wing it. I don't ever want to see Forever needing an item level squish that makes all low-level food and potions restore literally zero health like happened to retail this year, just because the devs can't stop themselves from constantly increasing the numbers at the top by huge amounts.

Anyone feel like taking any bets on how the above will shake out? Or do you have a completely different feature that you're worried could make or break WoW Forever for you? Feel free to share in the comments.

Why Are Players so Mad at WoW's Story?

A bit over a week ago, patch 12.1.5 brought us a short update to the current storyline and a new instanced raid boss, the old god servant Kith'ix. Killing him is part of the story, and for once, Blizzard made the story mode version of the fight accessible from day one! Thumbs up for that.

Still, I didn't play on release day, but I immediately saw people complaining about the new story, before I'd even gotten to it myself. Now, this has actually been the case with almost every Midnight patch and I never found the complaints very convincing, but this was on another level in terms of sheer volume. I eventually ended up running across an accidental spoiler for the major plot point that triggered all of this, which just left me feeling confused, because it didn't sound so bad in principle. What exactly was wrong with it? I urged my husband to play through the story with me as soon as possible, so I could find out for myself.

The below will contain spoilers for the 12.1.5 story, so don't read on if you want to avoid those. There is more content to this post that is spoiler-free, so you can scroll down to the "Why does everyone seem to be so mad about WoW's story right now?" header and read on from there if you want.

To summarise the 12.1.5 story in a nutshell: With the defeat of Ula'tek, Kith'ix is free and the Aqir are swarming in Eversong and Zul'Aman. Lor'themar leads an army to deal with the problem and clashes with the Amani. Liadrin manages to keep everyone focused on the Aqir threat and an agreement is reached to send a small mixed strike force to the Coiled Isle. During the confrontation with Kith'ix, the darkness is overwhelming but Liadrin calls upon the light like she did in the Midnight expansion cinematic and manages to save the day, though it comes at the expense of her own life. Everyone is sad and Lor'themar and Zul'jarra agree to part peacefully to honour Liadrin's memory (though they still aren't friends or anything).

So far, so good. Maybe you don't like the idea of Liadrin dying in general, and I wouldn't fault you for that. WoW has a long history of killing off important characters in unsatisfying ways, and I do suspect this one will be added to the list by many, but it shouldn't be a problem on paper, right? Going out with a heroic sacrifice for the greater good is not a bad way to die, right?

The problem lies in the execution. Self-sacrifice used to be part of the paladin class's toolkit a long time ago, with Blessing of Sacrifice draining your health and Divine Intervention literally killing the player to save another one, but it's not something that's generally been reflected in the storytelling. When Tirion Fordring called upon the light on top of Icecrown Citadel to lay the smack down on Arthas, he seemed empowered by it, not drained. And when Liadrin empowers us during the Kith'ix fight, she grows bigger and bigger golden wings, which honestly just looks badass. You go, girl! I'm not saying being drained to death by the light doesn't make sense, just that based on more than twenty years of in-game lore, it's not exactly the natural thing to expect when you see someone pumping holy power like there's no tomorrow.

It took me watching this T&E video to learn that she apparently has some shouts during the fight that indicate that things may not be going so well for her, such as "Let my life sustain them!" but I'd argue that these are easy to miss in the mayhem of the melee and also don't sound like she's on the verge of dying. More importantly, the characters in-universe don't seem to get the idea either! You'd think that if Liadrain was giving off vibes of being on the verge of death, someone would immediately turn around after Kith'ix's defeat and ask whether she's OK.

Instead, the post-raid cinematic shows us everyone whooping and cheering obliviously while Liadrain quietly expires in the background. Honestly, I thought that was unintentionally comical, which is really unfortunate. Only afterwards do Lor'themar and Zul'jarra turn around and act all shocked. Heck, Lor'themar starts saying "Liadrin, you were a(mazing)" like he expects to be high-fiving her any moment. So yeah, I 100% get why people are memeing about that.

In addition, there's also the meta context of all of this happening in a minor patch, during a raid (where players will be wiping and getting back up again all the time, and there should be plenty of healers around to aid the injured). My understanding is that Kith'ix is quite the bad mofo in theory, but in game he's made to play second fiddle to Ula'tek and everything about him is wrapped up within less than an hour of questing, so that only adds to the feeling of underwhelm.

All that said, it's one moment in a story that's otherwise solidly constructed (Liadrin gets quite the send-off in Silvermoon), so I don't feel like this is a sign of WoW's story being terrible or whatever other hyperbolic headlines are being thrown around right now. (Bellular made a video calling for Blizzard's writers to be fired in the title... I mean, come the fuck on.) Which brings us to the bigger question:

Why does everyone seem to be so mad about WoW's story right now?

Like I mentioned earlier, even before this patch I'd been seeing complaints about whatever the latest story update was for a while now. You'd think that Midnight had the worst story ever, which it really hasn't.

To take a step back for a moment, people have been complaining about WoW's story and lore for as long as I've been playing it. People will claim that the story was good back in Wrath of the Lich King for example, but you can go back through the archives of this very blog and find yours truly complaining in 2009 about how ridiculous Arthas was as a villain if you weren't predisposed to love him due to nostalgia for the RTS games. I just didn't think that made everything about the expansion terrible.

I do think there are other things that have changed over the years though:

1. The story's weaknesses lie in different areas

One thing I found interesting while reading some of the reddit threads in which people were complaining about the latest story and wistfully talking about the "good old days" of... usually Legion or earlier, was that they would say things like "I miss when cinematics were just cool". I can't quote a source for it, but Blizzard famously went on record back in the day saying that their storytelling was largely driven by the "rule of cool": someone would picture a character doing something epic, and then they'd write the story around making that thing happen.

The result were some admittedly pretty memorable cinematics, but often tied to story beats that made zero sense. To use Legion in specific as an example, Illidan yelling "I am my scars!" in The Rejection of the Gift is badass and definitely memorable, but the whole narrative around him suddenly being a chosen one was considered quite cringe even back then, and the way the Army of the Light are only mad at Illidan for killing a semi-divine being for all of ten seconds before moving on and seemingly forgetting about it is ridiculous. However, I can understand that for some people having these cool moments was more important than characters behaving in a believable way, and that fond memories of a neat cinematic are enough to paper over a lot of plot nonsense.

Since circa Dragonflight, there has been a shift towards more character-focused plots, with cinematics often used to show us NPCs talking about what they think and feel. I personally feel that this has made them more interesting and relatable... but I won't deny that it has resulted in fewer "exciting" cinematics.

I also wonder whether Blizzard has moved away from showing us specific characters kicking butt because they want the focus to be more on us as players doing heroic things. I do know I hated Tirion killstealing Arthas back in Wrath, and that wasn't even a cut scene yet, just a bit of in-game RP. But that's just me speculating. 

2. Blizzard has actively been drawing attention to the story

Blizzard's story may have had its issues in the past too, but they always promoted themselves as "gameplay first" and there was a widespread sense that people generally didn't play WoW for the story above all else. With the Worldsoul Saga promoting itself as... well, an epic saga, it makes sense that players are paying more attention to the story the devs are trying to tell and putting it under heavier scrutiny. So I'll say that this at least is something they kind of brought upon themselves by promising to be so much better about story.

3. Social media rewards outrage and clickbait

Like I said, people complaining about lore and story is almost as old as the game itself, but twenty years ago, that kind of stuff used to be confined to forums or niche blogs like this one. With social media, random complaints can gain much further reach, and algorithms and paid incentives actively reward anyone expressing outrage, which I think makes these complaints look much more widespread than they actually are.

With reddit in specific, I think WoW Forever has also caused a lot of cross-pollination between different WoW subreddits recently, and I think some Classic players are enjoying the opportunity to dunk on retail by upvoting complaints. I honestly don't think that we'd be seeing quite so many highly rated threads complaining about 12.1.5 otherwise, as /r/wow usually leans more positive towards the game as a whole. Again, I'm not saying there aren't valid issues for people to talk about, but for them to gain this much traction and to be blown up to be this massive sign of how retail WoW is over is definitely... abnormal.

As for me, I don't think that the current story is any worse than most of what came before. I don't think the Worldsoul Saga is entirely delivering on its promise of being much better at storytelling so far, but we're only about halfway through, so we'll see how things go in the second half. The one thing I do think the writers have gotten better at is general plot consistency and logic - I'm not claiming it's perfect, mind you, but you can usually tell where things are coming from instead of the random nonsense they used to inject in the past on occasion (hey, here's Jaina on a flying boat). However, I also agree that this has made for fewer "cool" and surprising moments for people to get excited about, so if that's something that's an issue for you, I do think that's fair. Let's just not pretend that WoW's storytelling having problems in general is a new thing.

Midnight on Foot

Two years ago I recommended FaroraSF's excellent YouTube video on exploring the Dragon Isles without flying, to which she made sequels for War Within and Midnight as well. While the latter two videos didn't get many views, I think her idea of going against the grain and sticking to ground travel in an environment where Blizzard had finally given up on forcefully grounding players was very inspiring, and at the start of Midnight it was interesting to see a lot more people talking about the concept of levelling without flying. I don't know how many players actually tried it - probably not that many - but the idea at least gained enough traction to be discussed on more mainstream channels. Somebody also made an addon that allows you to disable flying for yourself until you've hit certain milestones.

I was never tempted to forsake flying at the very beginning of the expansion, but I did decide to devote an alt to it as a side project. I eventually landed on my human paladin, since paladin seemed like a class that would really benefit from the increased immersion this expansion. More importantly though, if I was going to ground myself, I needed a character that was fun to watch on a ground mount and I still adore the paladin charger, so the paladin was a natural match in that regard too.

The idea was to stick to my ground mount and flight paths while levelling from 80 to 90, though due to a mix of restedness, gathering XP and a maxed-out warband mentoring bonus, I ended up hitting 90 early on in Harandar, so I still continued all the way to the end of the levelling campaign on the ground after that.

My biggest "worries" going in were a) that I was going to randomly forget what I was doing and take off on a flying mount while on autopilot and b) that levelling my mining skill was going to be a pain. I ended up being completely wrong about the first point - while I enjoy skyriding, being ground-bound is also still completely natural to me, and my brain had no problems switching to "ground-bound" mode and staying there. In fact, I even started running around Silvermoon like that while I wasn't questing and would've technically been "allowed" to fly, e.g. to get to crafting stations more quickly, but I was just happy to remain on my horse.

The worry about mining wasn't completely unfounded, as my mining skill is still only 75 or so at this point, when I would've maxed out long ago on a flying character. The two main problems I'd anticipated were running into nodes that were inaccessible without flying and being too slow on my ground mount compared to flying players, so that ores would despawn before I could reach them. Now, on a general level this wasn't as bad as I had feared: being ground-bound limits your field of view, and once you're actually close enough to an ore node to see it, you can usually make it there in time as well. Accessibility did become more and more of an issue with each zone though, and I'll definitely want to do some mining on my flying mount now to catch up a bit.

Silvermoon and the Isle of Quel'Danas

The expansion storyline starts you on the Isle of Quel'Danas, and for a brief period, all characters there are unable to fly. Once you can take off, the distance to Silvermoon seems quite long even while flying... and boy, is it a ride when you stay on the ground. The bridge connecting the island to the city is sooo long! Passing over it on the ground certainly gives you time to rethink your life choices, but the city slowly looming ever closer along the way is a pretty impressive sight.

I was kind of curious how Silvermoon itself would feel to navigate on foot and it was mostly fine... though I was disappointed to find that there are a few instances where you're supposed to talk to an NPC on a terrace on top of a building and there literally isn't any way to get there without flying. It's not a big deal considering we're expected to fly nowadays, but from an immersion point of view it really bugged me that there wasn't an actual stairwell or ramp to get to these places.

There are a couple of points in the campaign where you have to return to Quel'Danas, and on those occasions I found the island kind of annoying to navigate because the road just takes you to the entrance to the March on Quel'Danas raid, and to get to anywhere behind that you need to loop around the island on the outside because there are no walkable paths to cross those first few plazas outside the instance. 

Eversong Forest

Unsurprisingly, Eversong Forest was the easiest and most pleasant zone to navigate on foot, because as I noted in my review of Midnight's zones, you can still tell that it's based on a zone that was originally designed without flying in mind. That means the environments are pretty flat with only minor elevations for the most part, which made getting around easy and straightforward and ore nodes very accessible. There were a few nice vistas to enjoy as well, such as the silhouette of Windrunner Spire appearing on the horizon as you ride towards it.

Zul'Aman

I loved Zul'Aman while flying, but my perception of its elevation levels had kind of been limited to "west high, east lower". Exploring it on the ground really fleshed out the details of my mental map as it actually gave me a reason to become fully aware of minor cliffs and plateaus as well as the roads between the troll settlements.

I knew from Farora's video that the Temple of Akil'zon wasn't accessible on foot via normal means, so I did get out my flying mount just to get up there when the story required it. When it came to getting back down, I was delighted at the opportunity to bubble-jump, something I hadn't really had any reason to do for a long time (but continued to do many more times throughout my journey).

The loa temples were the thing that looked the most different to me on foot. I'd never realised how impressive the Temple of Jan'alai looms when you approach it from the ground, or the cool outer appearance of the Den of Nalorakk (while flying, I just point myself towards the dungeon entrance and zoom straight in like an arrow, with no pausing to look at the exterior). 

Harandar

I expected Harandar to be a bit of a pain to navigate on the ground as my impression while flying had been that it was all steep cliffs and deep ravines, but I was surprised by how much gentle sloping ground there actually was in the areas where the main campaign quests take place.

The Den of course has that big opening in the face of a cliff, which is great for taking off on a flying mount but does not have a corresponding footpath, which did make me wonder at the start how I was even going to get in or out of the place. I was surprised to find that the "ovaries" of the cave (if you know, you know) actually contained walkable ramps up to the top - I'd genuinely never had reason to go in there before. I just wish they were a bit more visible from the surface, as I had difficulties finding the entrances again from the outside more than once.

The only area I really struggled to navigate was the Rutaani village in the Lightbloom area in the south-west, which has all these looping ramps connecting to different platforms, and if you're on the wrong one you basically have to go down and find the right (different) ramp to climb back up. I felt like a spent a ridiculous amount of time on what was a fairly simple quest there.

The views were not as impressive(ly different) from the ground as they were in other zones in my opinion, maybe because the zone is designed to draw your eyes up to the Cradle, which works at any height. The giant mushrooms definitely have a different vibe though when you're riding underneath them instead of soaring above their caps all the time.

Voidstorm

I would say that in general, the annoyance levels of navigation increased with each zone, which made this one the biggest pain in the rear. Voidstorm really is all cliffs and ravines, and I don't think I've had to do this much running up and down narrow mountain paths since the first time I quested my way through Blade's Edge mountains in the original Burning Crusade. Every step in the story was another exercise in "where exactly is the path to lead me up/down to the next quest marker", which made this zone the first one to actually make me yearn for my flying mount at times.

Conclusion

All in all, I really enjoyed this experiment. The game is obviously no longer designed for this kind of questing, but nonetheless I felt that it really improved the pacing of the experience. I'm someone who does read all the quests (at least the first time around), but with how quickly you tend to hop from one location to the next, it's still easy to start skimming sometimes. The prolonged travel between quest objectives gives your brain time to breathe and digest both what just happened and what you're trying to do next, leaving you more ready to take in the next set of quest instructions - or at least that was my experience.

Not directly related to the ground-bound travel, but redoing the base campaign with the benefit of hindsight was also interesting. Since reinstalling retail WoW at the end of BfA I've never played through the main story of an expansion more than once during that expansion - until now that is - and there were definitely a few things that made me go "huh" on replaying. For example, there is one quest where Lothraxion talks about burning mana forges on a foggy swamp world - was he on Naigtal? Or the way Xal'atath talks about the dark Naaru trapped inside Alleria - on first playthrough that just seemed like more of her idle needling, but obviously after the events of the Voidspire you know that it was not!

My takeaway from all this is that I'll definitely want to do more of this kind of thing - maybe even go back to some previous expansions some time and do them on foot as well.