I've been raiding in MMOs in one form or another for close to thirteen years now (yikes), so I think I've got a pretty good idea about my preferences in regards to this specific activity. One conclusion I came to after a while was that as a general rule, I find bigger group sizes more fun. They have their issues of course (more likely to cause lag, people talking over each other a lot etc.) but there's just something more... epic-feeling about a large group of people storming an enemy stronghold together.
That said, Classic's 40-mans have still been a step up for me, as previously the biggest raid size that I'd ever been a part of was 25 people. That's 60% more players than I had to deal with previously!
And I really quite like it. 40 characters make for a proper little army that requires organisation into multiple smaller sub-groups, which makes for some interesting interactions. For example I'm but one of five "core" hunters in the guild, and it feels like we're our own tight-knit little group within the larger whole.
There's also a unique sort of social energy to a large and organised, yet fun-focused raid. It oddly reminds me of the dynamics of a party in real life actually, only without the physical awkwardness sometimes associated with initiating or extracting yourself from conversations (it's easy enough to choose whether you want to address the whole raid, others of your class, people near you, or just one specific individual by choosing the right channel of communication), and instead of everyone getting drunk by the end of the night, the ultimate goal is to smash some dragons.I don't recall ever having been a huge fan of parties in real life, but I quite like this more selectively distanced and organised version. That said, I'm still an introvert at the end of the day and I can't deny that therefore all this socialising is also taking a toll on me and leaving me quite tired at the end of the night. The fact that I'm still relatively new to all the raids and have to pay close attention to every mechanic instead of being able to auto-pilot through a lot of them probably doesn't help either.
So I spend my raid nights laughing at jokes on Discord, exchanging whispers, emotes and random gifts of useless items with various raid members until we're done slaying dragons, but then I'm properly knackered. I can only hope that I'll become a bit more resilient against this over time, because as tired as these nights leave me, I still love the vibe.
It also makes me feel a little sad actually to think of the downscaling in raid sizes that will come with Burning Crusade. I'm sure the poor officers struggling to fill a raid with 40 people every week (the runs are actually rarely full from my experience so far) will welcome the logistical pressure easing up a bit, but it will also force those sub-groups of "the hunters" etc. to shrink and just generally diminish the experience a little bit.
I really love 40-man raids too; the feeling that you're part of an army, with something truly of epic scope, can't be shaken.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, part of that is the group of Mages that Card raids with. "Welcome to our Magical Fam" is how one of them --whom I knew outside raids-- introduced me to the Mage chat channel. I've been doing other things in game while a couple of the other Mages are in AQ20 (for example), and they'll keep me cracked up all night with their jokes and other shenanigans during the raid.
There's a sort of espirit-de-corps in the Mage group that is infectious, and I've even added Az to the chat channel just so we can keep conversations going. They've accepted me as one of their own, even though I'm not in their guild, and for that I'm grateful.
As for that pic, you were going to do Vidiscous, weren't you? We still haven't beaten the ol' slimeball yet.
Did the ugly nature resist gear and dual-wielding of Coldrage Daggers give it away? :P Yes, that screenshot is from the entrance to Viscidus' room, and no, he's the one boss we haven't downed yet either.
DeleteI agree with you. I miss having a pally channel, and we don't even use a healer channel a lot of the time nowadays in Retail.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how modern Flex raiding would go over with large raid sizes. Like if a raid could be anywhere from 20-40 people (or even 30-50).
I'm secretly hoping that Blizz makes one change to the raids in BC, to convert the 25 person raids a 40 person raids.
DeleteI don't have any feelings about raiding but this post made me nostalgic about how much I used to really love parties. From the age of about fifteen to maybe thirty-five going to parties was one of my absolute favorite things to do. I didn't really stop enjoying it until the nature of parties I was going to bagan to change from the "cram as many people into a house as possible and play music too loud to talk over" kind to the "eight to twelve people for a sit-down meal" kind. I don't think I've been to either kind for about twenty years, now.
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